Ken Ford: 40 Years in AI and Why Chatbots Aren’t Thinking
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Dr. Ken Ford has spent 40 years in AI research, and he says chatbots aren't thinking at all. His test for when AI helps comes down to a pair of eyeglasses.
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Eric Malzone sits down with Dr. Ken Ford (founder and CEO emeritus of the Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, co-host of STEM-Talk). Inside: why chatbot errors come straight from how large language models are built, why AI scores near perfect on medical licensing exams but falls short on differential diagnosis, and IHMC's NIH resistance training study searching for biomarkers that predict who responds best in older adults. Ford also explains why data center power demand growing half an order of magnitude a year is a dead end, and what gyms can teach his lab.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
• Why AI "hallucinations" are the system working as designed
• How to use AI as a cognitive orthotic instead of a crutch
• Why AI aces licensing exams but misses on differential diagnosis
• What to bring to a 15-minute doctor visit to get real answers
• Where gyms fit in health span without stepping into medicine
"The test for success isn't the AI against the human. The test for success is do the docs do a better job with the AI or without the AI?"
(Dr. Ken Ford)
"The last thing I would like to have is a cognitive prosthetic, because that would imply I didn't have the functioning brain."
(Dr. Ken Ford)
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GUESTS
Dr. Ken Ford, Founder and CEO Emeritus (Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition)
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